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FATAL: A 15-year-old passenger died when Mika crashed this stolen vehicle in Bromley.

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‘DISADVANTAGED’: Fabian Jessie Mika is seeking a reduced sentence because he is Maori.

A Mongrel Mob member facing more than six years in jail is appealing his manslaughter sentence on the grounds being Maori puts him at a social disadvantage.

The Court of Appeal reserved its decision, with a judge labelling the request as “radical” during the hearing in Auckland today.

Jessie Mika, who has been involved with a gang since he was 16 and has “Mobsta” tattooed across his face, was sentenced in September to six years and nine months in jail for causing the death of a teenage boy during a car chase in Canterbury.

Christchurch defence lawyer James Rapley said Maori should receive shorter prison sentences because they come from an environment of social deprivation and inequality.

“Fifty-one per cent of the prison population is Maori,” he told the Court of Appeal. “Everyone says everyone should be treated alike and equally, but not everyone is equal.”

Mika was brought up by his aunt after his father walked out and his mother was unable to care for him, he said.

“Before he knew it, at the age of 14 or 15, he was associating with gangs,” Rapley said.

He suggested a 10 per cent reduction in Mika’s sentence due to his Maori heritage.

The three Court of Appeal judges said they struggled with the concept of reducing a sentence based on race.

“You’re asking us to take a pretty radical step and we just won’t do it on a wing and a prayer,” Justice Rhys Harrison said.

“Because he has some Maori blood – and we’re not sure how much – he’s somehow less blameworthy or culpable. That’s an extraordinary proposition.”

Justice Robert Dobson said he agreed the prison ethnicity statistics were appalling, but making ethnicity a mitigating factor in sentencing would not solve the problem.

The judges also asked Rapley how such a rule would be interpreted, including whether a person who was 1/16th Maori would be given a lighter sentence.

A 15-year-old boy died when Mike crashed a stolen vehicle in Bromley on February 22.

A court was told that Ethan Takitimu-McKenzie, a passenger in the crashed car, was left lying in the grass to die of massive head and chest injuries.

He admitted the manslaughter charge, failing to stop for police, failing to ascertain injury after an accident and being an unlicensed driver.

In September, at his High Court sentencing Rapley also asked the court to take into account Mika’s cultural background to reduce the sentence.

However, this was rejected by Justice David Gendall.

He said the personal circumstances of an offenders were always taken into account. “However, the law in this country is clear that no special discount for race, culture, or ethnicity matters alone is appropriate.”

In his submissions to the Court of Appeal Rapley further argued that such considerations now applied in Canada, and had been applied in Australia until recently.

District Court Judge Stephen O’Driscoll had recently noted that Maori offenders made up a disproportionately large element within the prison population.

Maori make up 15 percent of the general population, but 51 percent of the prison population.

The Sentencing Act had reinforced the need to address the shocking statistic of disproportionate Maori imprisonment, Rapley said.

New Zealand had the second highest imprisonment rate in the world, with an overrepresentation and disproportionate rate of Maori prisoners. “This has attracted comment from the United Nations and overseas media.”

Rapley urged the court to acknowledge and accept that the cultural background of Maori had been historically one of social deprivation and inequality and at present was disproportionately incarcerated.

“Everyone recognises there has been a history of colonialism, displacement, high unemployment, lower educational attainment and high level of incarceration for Maori,” Rapley said.

45 thoughts on “Mongrel Mob member seeks shorter sentence for being Maori

  1. A few years ago, this ridiculous claim would have been laughed at…..now, I’d say he has a 50/50 chance to get away with it. No PC out-of-touch excuse for a judge wants to be called a racist. Remember all these claims, with no end in sight, have happened under Labour and National. Time to vote for a Party that will stop this madness. Stop the racism and NZ will be a better place, a much better place.

  2. What nonsense is this?

    A child died! and HE is responsible!

    What next – time off being Irish? Indian? Eskimo? Tattooed?

    Black Brown Red Yellow or white lock this Criminal up!

  3. if I was in charge of the court I would have said take him out side & shot him he is a disgrace to his culture & a was of tax payers money.

  4. Why should he be given special treatment, we are all New Zealanders, race makes no difference, all people in New Zealand should receive the same treatment, New Zealand citizens or not, all races and skin colours should be treated the same, no-one deserves special treatment if they commit a crime.

  5. Conversely, of course, it could be claimed that the high proportion of law-breaking Maori in jail deserves an extra-long sentence to provide a greater deterrent than seems to exist at present! Not that I would suggest that, but it is surely just as logical as the request to reduce the sentence because he is Maori. Of course, his self-inflicted facial tattoo would not have anything to do with his reduced future prospects, would it? Unemployable! but the taxpayer is expected to support him!

  6. Looking at it the other way, this request hints at extra culpability for those raised outside the deprived demographics. The sentences of Europeans, Asians and Australians would be increased because they come from good families. Interesting.

    1. Quite right. I came from a good household of hard-working parents and I screwed up as a teenager and beyond. Luckily I didn’t kill anyone with my stupidity but I had a warning shot from a magistrate; I took his advice on board. There was nobody to blame for my mistakes other than myself and basically I ‘grew up’. My background didn’t (and shouldn’t have had) any bearing on the penalties for my dumb behaviour. “Here’s the crime, here’s the penalty.” Forget race, forget background, you are responsible for your actions, even at school-age, never mind as an adult. You have a choice about which road you take.

  7. I agree with Chris. Race should not come into it. A person died.Mika was in a stolen car, with no drivers license. I can guess the penalty I would get under the same circumstances as a white Kiwi & he should get the same without a doubt.
    I am surprised the Judge has to even think about it. What is happening to our justice system, & shame on the defence Lawyer for trying to get away with it.

    1. As a white kiwi you should know better, shouldn’t you? We, and Mika, grew up in the same country with the same laws, we saw the same things, heard the same things, were taught the same things (if you were in school) and should have the same penalties for the same crimes; it ain’t rocket science.

  8. No-one should be the slightest bit surprised that the lawyer made this special request. Why? Because there is nothing new with a demand for special treatment/status. While the Treaty had no intention of creating a partnership structure, National, Labour, The Greens, Mana and the Maori Party all use the term currently. Iwi already have special status in that most decisions and local and central government level are subject to consultation for “Maori perspective”. Most resource consents, both by individuals or corporate/government applicant are subject to iwi approval.
    Other niceties such as subjecting women to being seated to the rear or requiring that a karakia be sung at the beginning and end of most ceremonies area normal part of our processes. Some are fine and can reflect NZ history and current society but others are a deliberate intrusion intended to assert a special status as indigenous people.
    Perhaps the worst aspects of special status falls in two areas. Forstly it is the unsubtle guilt felt by many NZers when told that they are responsible for the atrocities of the past and the poor performance of some Maori in our society. The second, and arguably worst cultural effect of special status is the damage done to young Maori who, in many cases, have been lead to assume that they may hold a special status in society because they are the victims of colonization. They assume that they will receive special status in school, employment and benefits – this is before they appear in court where they may feel even further aggrieved if denied special treatment.
    It is often said that in some overseas countries the status of indigenous people automatically gives them social and economic status to ensure recognition and privilege. Not surprisingly, it is increasingly evident that the social statistics in these countries is declining among those members of society who chose to be identified as indigenous. Canada and the USA are two countries where the UN led experiment in social engineering is failing badly. Maybe not officially, but in the reality of everyday life the negative effect is growing steadily. NZ should make every attempt to become a genuine democracy where citizenship is truly equal and with no reference to race, ethnicity, religion or origin. It has to happen before the politicians embed the Treaty in a Constitution. And yes, we should remember that this will be before Parliament in the next 6 months. It will be passed with no reference to public opinion.

  9. My question is to the “One Law for All” group.You have printed many injustices from Maori against white New Zealanders and clearly have stirred up a huge amount of anger and resentment,and I am one of these who is seething against them and have done most of my life,-as have many, but where to from here? Will One Law for All become a registered political party? What is the next step please?

    1. Hi Diane
      Yes we intend to register in the first quarter of next year. Other things will start to happen shortly which will hopefully raise our profile.

  10. Firstly, the mere suggestion of preferential sentencing for any culture or ethnicity is absurd! Absolutely absurd! Furthermore, any judge that even gives such a request the time of day should be removed from the bar immediately as not only is such a consideration a clearly racist and disgraceful proposition – it would open a can of worms we would regret for the rest of humanity! Can you imagine what would follow? The Afghan refugee who kills a dairy owner for food and money and claims that he is Afghani and this behaviour is common in his country! Or maybe the radical Islamist who executes a young white girl at the beach for offending Allah by uncovering her body because this is what his country and religion demands in Iran?

    Once again friends and fellow “One Law 4 All” and/or simply EQUALITY supporters – this is the thin edge of the wedge and you can be 110% certain that if the bench or government gives this craziness as much as a sniff of interest, similar claims will begin rolling in with the regularity of the tides and build to a tsunami before we know what has hit us!!

    And for the record – there is only 1 reason Maori are so heavily over-represented in the prison population …… they are equally over-represented in the criminal/offender, drug/alcohol, child/wife/partner abuse, unemployment, gang, parental neglect and school truancy statistics! It’s about time Maori leaders, as a supposedly proud people, step up to the plate and show some gumption and leadership to their rudderless people. We need the huge number of successful, famous and inspirational Maori to STAND UP and say “enough is enough” – with the huge community and government support available today, any Maori child born in the 21st century has the same (or similar) opportunities as any similarly positioned (demographically) Pakeha, Asian, Islander or any other nationality/culture. The only difference is the MINDSET – victim, failure, blame of others and no acceptance of personal responsibility/accountability VS hard work, integration, drive to do better than your parents and a clear understanding/acceptance that success or failure depends ONLY on your own ATTITUDE.

    1. “….any judge that even gives such a request the time of day should be removed from the bar immediately…” High five.

    2. Agree totally, but also, as others have said, we have brought apartheid on ourselves thanks to politicians in the first instance and thereafter others with blinkers on, no common-sense and an overwhelming sense of misplaced ‘guilt’.

      Creating new injustices helps no-one in the long-term. We should be ashamed at the NZ our descendants will inherit.

  11. Being a low life scum bag, whatever his race, is no grounds for claiming a lesser sentence; quite the reverse in fact.
    Gang tattoos all over his face might put him at a social disadvantage, but he was NOT born with those. He STOLE the car (a criminal act, even for a Maori!) drove it badly and KILLED someone. That he is charged only with manslaughter is lenient enough; not that any jail sentence will bring back his victim, or indeed change anything about his future behaviour, only an intra-cranial lead injection would do that!

  12. Let him seek a reduction of sentence, and if the Judge has any balls he can double the sentence on the grounds of the appellant being racist.
    G.G.

  13. Im so sick of hearing or reading this baloney , he did the crime so so do the time , wat a load of crap , his lawyer should get fined as well for bringing this up , why are there so many mouri in prison ? because they are the ones that are committing most of the crimes . If it wasn’t for England and America in world war 1 & 2 we would be under the rule of japan or Germany , that wouldn’t be good would it ? . And this bad man looks like he has more white man in him than mouri ? and a few tattoos . The mouri’s were murderers rapists and canabils before the English came to NZ , read about what the mouris did in Kaiapoi , one of the other waring chiefs cut open a pregnant ladys stomach and pulled out the baby and then cooked it and ate it ? is this the race that should get time reduced for a crime THEY DID IN THE FIRST PLACE . NO in my view , and wat about the ludicrous thing about the taxpayer paying for the mouris to get the mummified heads back from overseas , man its just plain stupidity . 1law4all has got my backing 100%

    1. We don’t know whether we would of been ruled by Japan and Germany, though you only have a theory! Don’t be fooled by randomness! We will never know because we rational humans are prone to logical biases! Lol. However I agree with everything else you have said!

  14. I wholeheartedly agree with all the above comments posted up to Shaun’s at 5.31 pm. There is little I can add to the observations made except to say that it does appear from earlier comments on the whole business of bestowing so-called settlements on the recommendation of the Waitangi Tribunal that a Minister can act like a dictator and is giving away money and assets that are owned by all New Zealanders and is not answerable to anybody!?? We have suffered from previous Governments being totally unable to simply say “No!” to the unreasonable demands made by these Maori claimants and successive ones falling over themselves to continue to agree to everything put to them – no matter how undeserved – by the Maori leaders. How can the small parties become large enough to oust such yellow-bellied Governments and replace them with members who have not seemingly been brainwashed so effectively by the Maori propaganda machine?

  15. Race has nothing to do with it. Why do (some) Maori have this never ending sense of entitlement? A human being is dead because of this person’s actions; white, brown, black, green or purple you do the crime you do the time. I’d be inclined to appeal this sentence for sure, it’s not harsh enough!

  16. Noone should be surprised by any of this
    Grievance is what defines Maori any reading of early writers will confirm this.
    Lawyers, politicians, and the like have found a gravy train of wealth and power by tapping in to this characteristic of theirs
    As long as we have a political system that profits from appeasement it will only get worse

  17. I am very pleased to hear you will be registering as a political party. As soon as you do I will become a paid up member.As to the rest of these comments,we have to stop calling them warriors.They may have thought they were a 100 years ago, they`re not now.

  18. Race based special treatment is what the gang banger wants! Because he has Maori blood in him he thinks this gives him a license to commit crime(s) because Maori are overly represented in courts, prisons, poverty etc. Well what about non Maori who are in similar situations? Gang members are tough and intimidating in their numbers and quite as a mouse when on their own, how do I know? I used to associate with gang bangers! These very same gangsters claim and boast that they are hard! Prove how hard you are by doing 1 Law for all sentencing….ya wuss!!!!

  19. If it wasn’t so serious it would be totally laughable. Have we really come to this? For goodness sake politicians, acquire a bit of backbone and do what’s right for this country. Equality for all with nothing based on race is the only way.

    Under this current Government things have worsened racially at an alarming rate. Apartheid is virtually here, if not actually here. When are all the citizens who are too busy going about their lives going to wake up and do something before we reach the point of no return? This state of affairs concerns all of us, not just the mostly older ones who are trying to do something about it.

    They busy ones should start thinking of their children’s future because there won’t be much of a one if they don’t act without delay.

  20. Seems to me that maori are privileged being in receipt of all sorts of cash and special considerations and free everything so he should get a longer sentence than the rest of us underprivileged kiwis. How about a life sentence and then he will get more privileges, free residence, free food, free exercise, free time. Enjoy. all the dead kid got was a coffin and his family had to pay for it.

    1. “Free everything”….I’m Maori and I don’t get free “everything!” There are reduced academic standards for Maori/Pacific Islanders in various Universities throughout NZ, how about reduced academic standards for Maori like myself pursuing a degree in Politics? We need more “qualified” doctors/lawyers that are Maori and or Pacific Islander. What about more “qualified” Maori politicians?

      1. Malcolm; I wasn’t going to reply but your message has been bugging me all this time while I hv been out of action. You say you don’t get anything ‘free’ and then go on to ask for a freebie qualification based on skin colour – doesn’t that demean you, that you’re not achieving yr qualification on your own merit?
        Why should you get reduced standards? If you don’t hv the entry requirements there’s a chance you won’t ‘keep up’ academically surely or maybe you want the end exams to be altered to allow you to pass because of yr ancestry as well?

        Will you be able to hold your head up if that happens?

        I guess that if you failed an exam you could also jump on the bandwagon excuse that the Uni marked you down because of racism . . . funny how wanting a country of equality is seen as racism.

        What gets me is that Maori Corporates & Leaders are getting rich from TOW Tribunal settlements and you aren’t out there insisting that that money is trickled down to educate / empower / raise living standards / whatever instead of going nowhere near Maori grassroots in the main.

        What about Maori help Maori meet education fees rather than as you want, expecting a ‘second grade’ qualification?

        So long as Maori Leaders don’t look after their own they’ll be able to continually ‘blame’ we other Kiwis for not meeting their needs, not Maori.
        And as long as our kids of all races are taught to feel guilty in school the inequality you want will continue.

        One example of the freebie you say you don’t receive is that Pharmac’s hierarchy of priorities in spending puts Maori / Pacific Islanders needs above other races.
        No matter if you’re in a similar position income/accommodation wise, it’s skin colour that gets in first.
        Maybe you have your eye on a well paid spot on a council where you’re not voted in on your merit but put there because you hv some Maori genetics… another freebie that costs the rest of we Kiwis

        And all the job descriptions that say employees must adhere to the Principles of the TOW – these were generated by a lawyer from a false treaty draft and put Maori as owning ‘everything’ it seems and whom must be given priority over other Kiwis.

        Is that really where you want NZ to go Malcolm?

        It makes me see red but what’s worse is that ‘we’re’ letting our Politicians do this with barely a protest. 1Law4All is our last hope to bring to the media what’s going on but time is flying by . . .

        Shonkey is already working behind the scenes to bring NZ First and the Conservatives into the National umbrella so it’ll be more of the same tenfold if we can’t come up with a credible party before the elections.

        We’re going to be known in history as the only country in the 21st century who welcomed apartheid otherwise!

        1. Well said, Carole. It’s just so encouraging to hear someone else who can see what’s wrong with this country and all the racism and special treatment based on race.

          The way the bar is being lowered for people of Maori descent makes me form the firm opinion that I will never allow myself to be treated by anyone of Maori descent in case they were one of the ones who only got through because the bar was lowered. It will bring any qualifications they attain into question, so they will be in effect causing themselves to be discriminated against because of their race. If they can’t be accepted on their own merits and qualify the same as everyone else, then they don’t deserve their qualification. I can’t believe anyone would find it acceptable to pass someone under a lower standard because of their race. What does that tell you??!!

          1. 1Law4All is not our last hope! Wake up! here’s why you should not think that the political party our 1LAW4ALL is our last hope (ps. I’m a party member of 1 LAW4ALL).Expecting elected officials to turn things around on their own will not work. They all say they represent their constituency, however, this is not so. The constituency voices are heard, however, never heeded. The political system in NZ is corporate controlled by the elites, to serve the wealthy, ignore the poor and answer to everyone, however they please. Special interest groups and lobbyist’s look for loopholes in NZ law in order to subvert NZs elective representation democracy model we implement in our country, elective dictatorship is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, the sheep’s clothing being that of our elective representative democratic system the NZ public have no choice, however, to live under. The NZ public have yet to wake up from the dominant model, that blinds us, in the United States people are finally taking action and are now aware, that necessary changes needed won’t come from someone else, somewhere else, from corporate financed politicians or simply by voting. In NZ, the financial, political and social elites work in cahoots with the NZ and international media industry to control beliefs and attitudes; to induce consumerism, passivity, apathy and distraction. So that the majority of the NZ public are not included in the policymaking that consequently affects their quality of life. All western democratic societies are under a system of control and hierarchy. In NZ, public policy is radically divorced from public opinion. The concentration of wealth in NZ leads to reflexively to concentration of political power, which in turn translates into legislation, naturally in the interests of those implementing them, the ruling class/the elites of NZ society. Representatives must be recallable and under the control and influence of the participants. Right now NZ politicians are not recallable, neither are they under the control and influence of the NZ public/the majority/the taxpayers. The taxpayer will bail you out is the measure that policymakers have decided on. So that policymakers can implement policies that underestimate risk. In NZ our economy is not protected, it is a financial casino, where the ones who get hurt are not the rich and powerful, it’s the 99 percent. Where progress has been made, wherever any kind of injustice has been overturned, it’s been because people acted as citizens, not politicians, they didn’t moan, they worked, they organised, and they rioted if necessary to bring their situation to attention to those in power. Somewhere murdered, somewhere thrown in jail on trumped up charges. These are the ones with skin in the game, the ones who have soul in the game are willing to risk their lives and die, so that countless others may benefit. Where are you in all this? Do you have skin or soul in the game? I don’t know? God knows? And perhaps you know yourself? Consider me Malcolm Urlich, the Che Guevara of Maoridom.
            Malcolm Urlich.

            1 Law for all.

        2. (1)I’m way ahead of other students exam wise, while they are averaging B+ I’m averaging A+ (2)your assumption that “I guess if you failed the exam you would jump on the band wagon etc.” is a logical fallacy, logical fallacies are like tricks or illusions of thought that politicians and the media sneakily use! The logical fallacy you have used is the slippery slope fallacy! Asserting that if we allow (A)”Malcolm fails in his exams” too happen then(Z)”you could also jump on the band wagon”….will consequently happen too, therefore (A) “Malcolm fails his exams” should not happen! (3) Maori helping Maori is a pipe dream (4)Your comments are loaded with assertions or logical fallacies, are you sensitive to these? (5)I don’t have my eye on a well paid spot on the council, how did you come to that conclusion? An example of a logical fallacy!(6) My eyes is on the prize becoming the “if” possible first part-Maori prime minister of NZ. (6)If it takes reduced academic standards to achieve my agenda then I will do what I gotta do? (7) I intend to change the current elective representation democratic model which is really an elective dictatorship, to that of direct democracy, go to my face book account under Malcolm Urlich search in the notes section for “Direct Democracy in New Zealand” read so you understand where I’m coming from? I have skin and soul in the game of changing the democratic model all New Zealander’s are under!Do you? What are you doing?(8) Don’t call us kiwis, we are not kiwis, kiwis are are almost extinct, only come out at night, have beady little eyes and are an endangered species! WE ARE NOT ENDANGERED SPECIES, THAT ONLY COME OUT AT NIGHT! Get to know who you are dealing with before you assume what my future actions “might” be? Because when you assume you make an ass out of you and me! As for the media they won’t help either since Naom Chomsky’s Propaganda Model is well in effect right here in NZ!!!!

          1. (1)I’m way ahead of other students exam wise, while they are averaging B+ I’m averaging A+ (2)your assumption that “I guess if you failed the exam you would jump on the band wagon etc.” is a logical fallacy, logical fallacies are like tricks or illusions of thought that politicians and the media sneakily use! The logical fallacy you have used is the slippery slope fallacy! Asserting that if we allow (A)”Malcolm fails in his exams” too happen then(Z)”you could also jump on the band wagon”….will consequently happen too, therefore (A) “Malcolm fails his exams” should not happen! (3) Maori helping Maori is a pipe dream (4)Your comments are loaded with assertions or logical fallacies, are you sensitive to these? (5)I don’t have my eye on a well paid spot on the council, how did you come to that conclusion? An example of a logical fallacy!(6) My eyes is on the prize becoming the “if” possible first part-Maori prime minister of NZ. (6)If it takes reduced academic standards to achieve my agenda then I will do what I gotta do? (7) I intend to change the current elective representation democratic model which is really an elective dictatorship, to that of direct democracy, go to my face book account under Malcolm Urlich search in the notes section for “Direct Democracy in New Zealand” read so you understand where I’m coming from? I have skin and soul in the game of changing the democratic model all New Zealander’s are under!Do you? What are you doing?(8) Don’t call us kiwis, we are not kiwis, kiwis are are almost extinct, only come out at night, have beady little eyes and are an endangered species! WE ARE NOT ENDANGERED SPECIES, THAT ONLY COME OUT AT NIGHT! Get to know who you are dealing with before you assume what my future actions “might” be? Because when you assume you make an ass out of you and me! As for the media they won’t help either since Naom Chomsky’s Propaganda Model is well in effect right here in NZ!!!!

          2. Malcolm; thank you for your response and congrats on your academic results – I hope your goal comes to fruition.
            You are quite correct in that I do not know you and that I made generalisations in my message to you but I stand by what I said.

            If someone wants to gain something by lowered standards, in this case you wanted reduced entry requirements into university, then, it is logical that they may look for another route to get in the back door.

            It sounds that this isn’t the way you yourself operate which I applaud as I personally don’t believe that someone who is given lowered entry requirements into university purely based on race can be seen as receiving an equal qualification.

            I was puzzled by your blunt statement that “Maori helping Maori is a pipe dream” and that you had no explanation or personal opinion added to this statement until I read your Facebook page and saw how much thought you’ve given to this ‘sad situation’ and indeed to how ‘democracy’ doesn’t happen in NZ.

            (In fact, I recommend Malcolm’s FB page as a ‘must read’)

            I used the term “Kiwis” as a generic term for NZers as I don’t like the label Pakeha (who knows what that means), European (my ancestors were not European) nor Maori (as there are no 100% Maoris, not even a 50% Maoris I’m told).
            Perhaps I should have referred to us as sheep as we seem to have more in common with them than Kiwis albeit sheep at least have food going in and fertilisation comes out instead of meaningless, seemingly contagious apathy that afflicts many people in NZ.

            There is a lot I would like to say Malcolm but I can’t always find the right words.

            When I hear about the unitary plan for Auckland and inroads by part Maori into other councils where there is no equality or even common-sense for them being there and that there is little evidence in the media that part Maori not directly involved in these positions protesting against it happening – it was heartening to read your comments… at last I thought.

            But why are there not more part Maori saying these things out in public?

            We keep hearing accusations that we ‘white sheeples’ don’t understand Maori ways and that they are being demeaned by ‘us’ wanting accountability of welfare pay-outs or project grants (for example.)

            To complicate the situation even further, part Maori Leaders (some not all, but they’re noisy and greedy) are expecting ‘us’ to believe their wild assertions and assert they are ‘superior’ and have more ‘rights’ than the rest of us – and our flaming politicians just lap it up and hand out.

            How can they (I ask) in the face of such ridiculous contentions, what’s in it for them that they just nod or rub noses?
            Why are they agreeing to hand over sovereignty and resources with no or little justification in most situations?
            Why are tribal elders not also seeking compensation from each other for perceived or real injustices?

            Why are Europeans not given the same opportunity for ‘compensation’ for injustices against their ancestors by Maori or Crown?

            I wish there were answers and there was an easy solution.

          3. Malcolm, in answer to your second posting

            I don’t have your word power but I agree with all you say above. NZers are being short changed by our progressive governments yet when I say that anywhere I get the raised eyebrows and fob off. One friend even got up and walked out when we talked about racial inequalities in NZ.

            It seems that a lot of what you are saying is similar to Amy Brookes thinking in her ‘100 Days to reclaiming back Democracy’ Policy similar to Switzerland where binding referendums can be called for by a percentage of the population within 100 days of any legislation passing into law as you obviously know already.

            It really does make sense and I bet politicians knees start to tremble whenever they hear it mentioned. It is ludicrous that a man who did not make Parliament for three elections now sits as second string to Shonkey in two of the most responsible positions in Parliament.

            The reason I have for saying that 1Law4All is our last hope is because of all the changes in history and legislation that have being given recognition and passed as an Act and can never be claimed back ….. unless you know differently?

            If NZ allows Part Maori a 50%i partnership of NZ’s sovereignty how are we ever going to reverse that decision – we need to get into Parliament this election in order to gain a voice in the media and just maybe I hope, there will be an uprising to bring NZ towards equality not apartheid as people grow angry when it’s out there in their face so it can’t be ignored just how our Politicians, Civil Servants, PC Activists, Education syllabus etc are working to their own ends, not that of NZ as a whole . . . but we need a Leader as well as the committed core group of people currently working towards One Law for All . . . Anyone?

            What does this mean? “Che Guevara of Maoridom”

  21. Once again in our NZ we see how racist we have become.No doubt we have a well paid white lawyer representing this animal at our cost as no doubt he is on the dole and getting legal aid.It surprises me this pig has not asked to have his case transfered to the maori court.
    These so called mobsters know the law backwards and our govt’s over the years have bowed down to there every needs so what do we as taxpayers have to moan about as we all do nothing about it.We keep voting these clowns in and we have become so p.c that it is almost a criminal offence to disagree with the minority.

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  23. “Because im Maori”??? Did this looser also ask for a price reduction on his tattooed face because he’s Maori?would he have been granted this demand?i think not.Is this trendy racist excuse to be accepted by society ? I hope not.

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