Palmistry and Sleight-of-Hand

It wasn’t that long ago that NZ citizens voted against a Constitution. Especially a race-based one. But arch-racist Sir Geoffrey Palmer doesn’t like democracy, so he’s trying to sabotage that important plebiscite. He has co-authored a book that tries – yet again – to make the case for a Treaty of Waitangi-based Constitution.

He just might be coming to a library near you, where, for a paltry $10, you can hear the same old racist codswallop – all over again. But keep this in mind.

Does Palmer want to rule New Zealand?

In a Constitutional Republic, judges can overrule the decisions of the people’s democratically elected representatives, in parliament.

And Judges are picked from the ranks of lawyers.

And Palmer is a lawyer.

Nuff said?

Read some of his scary stuff, here. Although Palmer seems quite disinterested in democracy, there is an option to make a submission on that page – if you can be bothered.

Palmer was the main architect of the mythical “treaty principles” as well as the Waitangi Tribunal legislation and all the hearsay claims and other dubious re-writing-of-history-to-get-the-money claptrap that it runs on.

CONstitutionally, he’s tried it all before. See here.

In 1985 Geoffrey Palmer, the attorney general and minister of justice, was the prime mover behind a white paper proposing a Bill of Rights as supreme law for New Zealand. The proposed Bill of Rights would have given judges the power to overturn laws that were seen to be inconsistent with the rights guaranteed in the bill. It would also have given legal recognition to Māori rights under the Treaty of Waitangi.

The proposals were strongly attacked from a number of corners. Some argued that to give judges the power to strike out laws and determine the nature of human rights would undermine the power of the democratically elected Parliament.

13 thoughts on “Palmistry and Sleight-of-Hand

  1. The man is a total and absolute menace. He seems quite unable to see the damage that he has done. This is the man who at the beginning of the TOW process said that it might take 10 years and cost a billion dollars when of course it is still chugging along and has cost many times that amount. Personally I am in favour of no changes whatever knowing full well that any changes this man proposes means an increase in the racial tensions of the country.

  2. I agree! I’m sick of all these racially-based laws. There was an article from Peter Dunne, MO for Ohariu who is advocating the same. But what party and candidate can we vote for who opposes this?

  3. I had thought that when English replaced Key that he might assert some of his opposition to race based from years gone by. He seemed to start to distance National from the Maori Party but that seems to have fizzled in the past month. Has he been pressured by Findlayson and others to continue Key’s use of racist deals to support National?
    I now think that the indoctrination of politicians has gone too far for real change. A distinctly unlikeable National Party may be reurned as our government simply because the rest of them are even more unpalatable.

  4. I had a slum dwelling in Klong Toei, Bangkok, ready for Palmer, because I assumed the weakling 5th Nat Government would expel him. The idiots however lack jaw and meaningless Blenglish encourage this traitor. Along with madmouth Morgan I will hold Palmer for you in Bangkok until he can recite the RMA backwards. The rats in his hovel are specially bred, and the cockroaches can survive 100% formalin. Nothing is too much trouble to save my country from these traitors to democracy.

  5. This country needs a radical shakeup towards democracy. The most powerful politicians: the PM , the attorney general, the finance minister, and even the Governor General, along with many others are unelected by the general population. The only recent binding referendum we had was only given because it was a hobbyhorse of the PM. Less and less people are bothering to vote as their votes are practically meaningless. If politicians can interpret a simple document like the Treaty as being some kind of partnership what use is a written constitution?

    These twisters can make anything mean anything. The Swiss have real democracy where the people have the right to overturn any law by referendum. Their politicians know this so they don’t try and make self-serving laws The real power is held by the people as it should be in NZ.

  6. The only way out of this whole messy saga is to Vote Winston Peters. He has made it a pledge to sort this Maori treaty settlement thing to an end. Also he has made it his swan song to sort out the Immigration debacle along with a few other sticky issues.

    1. You’re either a cock-eyed optimist or delusional. Winston will always say what he’s going to do – and pick his choices and words very carefully. But, when the chance comes, he rarely does what he said he’d do.

      Do all you pro-Winnie types have blinkered memories? Do none of you remember how Winston said that he would not be tempted by the baubles and trinkets of power? But when they were offered, he lunged for them, with all his might. Try not to forget that.

      Can a leopard change its spots? Winnie’s a career politician, through-and-through. Ever-aiming at populism; always avoiding the promise delivery part of the deal.

      1. OK Simon, so what’s the alternative? Don’t vote at all and hope for the best? Revolution? I know Winston Peters certainly isn’t ideal, but at least he says he is in favourof equal rights and 1 law 4 all; what other party will say that??

        1. After all is done and said, there’s more that’s said than done.

          It’s not what’s said that counts.

          E.g. National said that they’d abolish the Maori seats.

          They lied.

  7. I see no alternative but to vote for Winston. Sure we know what he is like and recently the behaviour of Ron Mark with regard to a Maori trust has thrown additional doubt on NZ First but what is the alternative? ACT simply don’t want to talk about the issue and Seymour says the Maori party members in the house are his new best friends. Even worse is Bill English who promises to be even worse that Key over Maori issues in spite of his utterances in the past. Every politician can say one thing and do another. When I challenged my local National MP over the issue he said that no one ever bought it up at meetings. Next time I will be there but they deliberately make it as difficult as they can. I write to him but get no reply.

    1. Well, I’m hoping that a party list vote for 1Law4All will be a ballot paper option. I think that Winston is all talk and no do (mostly). Worse, I shudder to think what would happen if, after NZ First got in, in a big way, Winston was toppled in favour of Ron Mark. That’s almost too horrible to even contemplate.

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